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PostPosted: 9/14/11 Wednesday, 3:06 pm 
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Hi All!

I'd like to ask you how you describe the possible pain of lipomas? I know most medical articles state that lipomas do not usually hurt (they are nonpainful). Well mine does, or actually, did. Since I started eating the apricot seeds to remove lipomas, the pain stopped. I used to have also bothering itchiness but that stopped too after the seeds.

I really didn't care about the itchiness so much, except that it also reminded me about the lumps :evil: because naturally I scratched the itchy spots. I noticed that my lipomas started always itch and hurt more after I had consumed plenty of alcohol. My lipomas also felt extremely hard after some drinking. I still do not know why? Has any of you noticed this?

The worst pain I have ever felt was caused by one of my lipoma. It was located in the outer side of my right thigh. It had been there for some years and it was the size of a half grape. It usually didn't bother me too much during the days, but I woke too many times in the middle of the night because I was literally feeling like someone was stabbing my thigh! The pain was so bad I felt I was going to pass out. :shock:

That was when I started to seek for lipoma removal. I first tried the Lipostabil injections but they only made the lipomas softer and although the pain disappeared for months, it gradually came back. I had an lipoma MRI taken at the time and it showed the lipoma had become a little smaller. But I think the doctor didn't a) inject enough Lipostabil and b) Lipostabil is not as good for lipomas as Deoxycholate alone.

I have since had that evil monster lipoma surgically removed but I still remember the suffering it caused me. I think it caused me pain, because as I was sleeping on my right side, the lipoma was pressing on my nerve or blocking a vein or something. And if I moved in my sleep and the status quo was changed, then the pain hit me like a knife! I actually screamed sometimes! Awful.

And the pain didn't relieve immediately, it lasted sometimes minutes before it slowly subsided. I can only imagine how it hurts if someone has a lipoma on their back and it is pressing on some nerve. I'm glad I went trough the lipoma excition although it left me scarring.

I have lipomas in my arms too but they are never causing me any pain. Just the ones in my thighs and buttocks.

Before the apricot seeds, my lipomas sometimes ached in a persistent and pulsating manner. It came and go for no apparent reason?

Of course you could try some pain relieving gels to ease up the pain. I'm not a huge fan of pain relieving pills since they might be dangerous if used continuously.


I'd like to know do you feel pain or itching and how you cope with it? And do you have any idea why alcohol consumption made my symptoms worse (it doesn't anymore btw)? Have you noticed any patterns?

UPDATE 2013: I am almost pain free because of the natural lipoma supplement mix I now use. I strongly recommend on testing some antitumor supplements since they will most likely slow down the growth rate of your existing lipomas and prevent new ones from appearing. I have personally noticed my pain diminish and I haven't seen new lipomas i a year or so!


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PostPosted: 9/14/11 Wednesday, 7:07 pm 
Matt, did you say that the lipomas stopped hurting after you quit taking the apricot seeds?

About my pain:

I can't bear any pressure on thighs - that means not holding my daughter on my lap when she was little,
not allowing pets to sit on lap.

Last night a lipoma on my knee throbbed.

The ones in my arms hurt if touched, or pressed upon.

In daily activities it is nearly impossible to avoid contact with limbs.

Then there is the emotional pain as well.


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PostPosted: 9/15/11 Thursday, 9:34 am 
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Hi Laura and Matt,

the biggest problem with the "Standard" Lipoma-Tumors are that they are growing. That is the general knowledge and that the WHO hasn't so far reconised Lipoma-Tumors as a illness!

The real problem is which most our medical people don't know is that Lipoma-Tumors will create up a certain size and depending on locality trouble in form of survire pain because if they are coming in contacts with nerves, tendons or muscles.

I like to tell you a little about my past: In 2007 I collapsed at home several times had cramps in the back and was everytime rushed with the ambulance into the hospital. Non of the doctors were interested to investigate the problem. After ordered pain killers I was discharged. (All private hospitals) The last time a Neurologist kept me in the hospital for 10 days and examinated everything, but was not able to see on my back a 25 cm long swelling. He ordered strong medical pills and I was than discharged.

Now believe it or not: On the flight from Perth to Frankfurt/M I collapsed in the plain again and in Frankfurt/M airport I was taken to a hospital where they could find the big swelling. They made me fit again to fly home. It has cost me several thousand of Dollars and than my operation history with 40 in 2 years begun.
See the blog: Lipomas: serious disease or merely cosmetic? http://lipoma-report.blogspot.com
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PostPosted: 9/15/11 Thursday, 12:34 pm 
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Laura, yes the itchiness and tenderness disappeared the same time Istarted eating the apricot seeds. But as I have continuously repeated I have no proof it's because of the seeds.

But before, if I pressed any lipoma it felt rock hard and tender. No almost all my lipomas are pretty soft and not tender at all. Usually the ones which are just appearing are the most painful and they have pulsating pain. I haven't notided those after I started eating the seeds in the spring of this year.

I had a short break in the summer, 2-3 weeks, from the kernels and I could almost swear that my lipomas became more tender and started to itch again.

Don't know, maybe it's just my imagenation? :|

It would be cool if someone with adiposis dolorosa tried to eat apricot seeds for some weeks and see if the pain dimishes at all.

Klaus, you are probably right about the fact that lipomas themselves don't hurt but they press our nerves or muscles or other tender locations. So yes, in a sense, medical books are correct by saying lipomas don't hurt. By they do cause pain for many! And you even collapsed because of some evil fatty swelling.

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PostPosted: 9/15/11 Thursday, 6:49 pm 
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The ones in my thighs never hurt, but they do itch sometimes. The ones in my arms are also not painful, but I do feel that they sometimes cause poor circulation. The ones in my abdommen are where the pain lives. After a long day of roofing houses one might expect to be a little sore. I can reach down and touch every sore spot and guess what? A lipoma underneath the sore spots. Sometimes while wrestling around with my daughter she will hit me in the stomach area and when she hits a spot where a lipoma is located, it causes a sharp stabbing pain.Of course I pretend like it doesnt hurt, but it does. Any doctor that says they dont hurt should find another job. I will be the judge of my pain.


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PostPosted: 10/21/11 Friday, 3:20 pm 
Doctors care about treating teen age acne.

Health insurance in the US will pay for that treatment, yet acne is not permanent, does not cause physical pain,
and does not wrap around nerves or clog veins and arteries.

We must make the medical world understand.


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PostPosted: 11/3/11 Thursday, 1:50 am 
I'm a 29 year old female. Not overweight. Healthy except for simple partial seizures that began last year. Then in July of 2011 my husband noticed a lump on my back. A month later it had doubled in size and was 2 inches. A doctor in town decided to remove it for free for me (local clinic) and at the time of surgery it was 2 1/4 inches long. This thing REFUSED to leave! So not only did it hurt having it, but the surgery was a nightmare. Then the incision site came open after the stitches were removed. I was so relieved that it was all over. TWO WEEKS LATER a new lipoma tumor appeared about an inch away from the surgery site. It was very small but definitely a lipoma. Within a month it was an inch. I went back to the clinic last Thursday and it was slightly over an inch. Now it's 2 inches already! My lipomas grow VERY fast and they hurt!


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PostPosted: 11/3/11 Thursday, 12:12 pm 
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Hi LipomaGirl
Thank you for your message and I am sorry to hear about the situation.
I am pretty sure that lipomas are a sign that the body is not able to deal with toxins so perhaps you should think very carefully whether something changed in your life that may have added to the toxic burden.
According to Dr. Meschi, PhD, CNC, BCIM quote: "the average, healthy person takes in four times as many toxins as the body can eliminate. These toxins come in many forms: heavy metals, fungi, viruses, bacteria, chemicals, excess hormones, drugs, yeast, and even non-whole food vitamins and supplements which the body is unable to digest and utilise"
http://www.drmeschi.com/archives/796
If you can try to very precisely think about any changes that occurred with almost any aspect to your life especially during the time before the partial seizures began, you may get a step closer to finding the way forward.
Best wishes, Pierre


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PostPosted: 11/5/11 Saturday, 3:12 am 
LipomaGirl wrote:
I'm a 29 year old female. Not overweight. Healthy except for simple partial seizures that began last year. Then in July of 2011 my husband noticed a lump on my back. A month later it had doubled in size and was 2 inches. A doctor in town decided to remove it for free for me (local clinic) and at the time of surgery it was 2 1/4 inches long. This thing REFUSED to leave! So not only did it hurt having it, but the surgery was a nightmare. Then the incision site came open after the stitches were removed. I was so relieved that it was all over. TWO WEEKS LATER a new lipoma tumor appeared about an inch away from the surgery site. It was very small but definitely a lipoma. Within a month it was an inch. I went back to the clinic last Thursday and it was slightly over an inch. Now it's 2 inches already! My lipomas grow VERY fast and they hurt!



If the doctor doesn't get all of the lipoma capsule out, then it comes back.

Sometimes it is hard to get it all out, if it is in the muscle or wrapped around a vein.

I know it hurts. I'm sorry you are going through this.

Some of us think there may be a chemical imbalance causing this, that you've had partial seizures may be related.

Also see treatment section of the board, a few of us will be testing a suppliment that Darryl thinks has cured his lipomas.

Take care, don't give up.


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PostPosted: 11/5/11 Saturday, 3:00 pm 
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Hi Guys,
Man is mortal. But before die human suffer for many disses. Lipoma Is one kind of them. Its just a genetic disorder for human body. I also suffer from it. Recently I feel that something trigger the genes to start producing excessive amount of fat cells. Then I think about it and go to a specialist. He tell me about it. There must be some triggering effect to it. And I believe the trigger is external or environment. It makes no sense that body being developed by the evolution for ages, would create unharmful lumps lumps without any reason. When we find out we need to take prevention.

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PostPosted: 11/9/11 Wednesday, 7:08 am 
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Many times I have developed a new lipoma, the area has been aching and sore for some time. If pressed, the area feels like there's an inflammation or something. I think some of the pain caused by new born lipomas occurs because the area is inflammated.

Then later on the inflammation may subside and many lipomas stop hurting. If the area then get inflammated again the area becomes tender again. Or the lipomas may start to pressure a nerve nearby which can cause a different kind of pain, even a stabbing pain which in my case sometimes lasted for a minute or so.

I think in the Dercum's disease the tissue is constantly under inflammation which actually causes the neuropathic pain. The body is telling the person to keep its fingers away from the inflammated tissue while it desperately tries to battle against the inflammation.

How many of you can relate that the lipomas hurt more just after they were born?

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PostPosted: 2/20/12 Monday, 9:50 am 
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I learned from a Dercums group that many have had their lipoma pain totally vanished by consuming noni juice and grape seed extract. Some claim to have even cured their lipomas with those substances. I'm going to try these substances in the near future and will report later.

As of now my lipomas are not hurting anymore. Not even the new small ones which use to hurt. I believe it's because of the lipoma remedies I'm currently taking.

I have the feeling that very few if any new lipomas are appearing and the area around the lipomas no longer hurt. It used to did but it kind of varied from time to time. Sometimes the pain was more staggering and then it eased again.

But for now I have not had any painful lipomas - which is a kind of miracle! :)

It must be that the inflammation is somehow less now.

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PostPosted: 5/29/12 Tuesday, 12:06 pm 
Hey guys,

I just wanted to tell you that for a lot of people, the underlying cause of Lipoma occurrence is Lyme disease. I would advise that you search the web for symptoms of Lyme disease and see if you have any of them (these can be broad at times so avoid immediately concluding you have Lyme disease). After many years of pain from Lipoma growth (and a slew of other symptoms I need not mention), I was finally diagnosed with Lyme disease, and after many months of treatment, my little lipoma problem no longer exists. Be warned though, the detection of Lyme disease can be pretty difficult as most doctors in the world are Lyme-illiterate. If you suspect you have Lyme disease, please do a lot of searching for LLMD (Lyme literate medical doctors) and visit one local to you.

Just thought that this may help those unaware of this disease's many many many side effects. I certainly wish I would've known back then.

Best of luck to you all.


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PostPosted: 5/30/12 Wednesday, 7:15 am 
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Hi HelpfulWanderer!

This is not the first time that I hear about the Lyme disease - lipoma connection. The internet is full of discussion board referencies to the Lyme disease - lipoma connection. Like this one. Lyme disease is caused by a borrelia bacteria which are transmitted into humans via tick bites.

However I couldn't find any scientific documentation which would back up the idea. So I'm not sure about the connection.

Btw which kind of treatment did you receive?

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PostPosted: 10/6/12 Saturday, 9:56 am 
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I have often wondered why most lipomas tend to hurt and be more sore when they are just appearing and small in size. While reading this Noble lecture from 1966 it suddenly occured to me!

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True, the body often reacts against them while they are small, as it does against grafts of incompatible normal tissue, destroying these; yet so rarely do established tumors disappear that such happenings seem miraculous.


I believe the body and our immune system is trying to fight against this new abnormal formation. The immune system notices something is very wrong and it sends it's troopers on site. This causes the inflammation and pain.

Often when lipomas grow the pain lessens and the inflammation subsides. The body has lost the fight to the tumor but has been able to do the next best thing. It isolates the tumor by a fibrous tissue.

In some conditions the body stayes in this fight mode forever, like in Dercum's disease. Why this occurs escapes me at this point?

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PostPosted: 11/24/12 Saturday, 9:08 am 
I have well over 20 lipomas (probably closer to 50) and almost all of them hurt. Because they are painful, my insurance covers most of the cost to remove them. I've had 3 removed. One with scapel and 2 with lasers. The scar from the scapel is barely visible a few years later. The laser ones were removed about 6 months ago and one of them still looks like it is trying to heal. They both looked weird though.

I really hope somebody comes up with a way to remove these without having surgery. I'm at the point where whenever I lose weight, they just stick out more and hurt more. I'd like to get back into good shape once these little turds are gone. Sometimes it does feel like you are being stabbed exactly like what the OP said.


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PostPosted: 11/29/12 Thursday, 12:24 am 
So I have a single lipoma on my back, no pain... but it seems to be growing much faster than whats described on the internet and I question if its been mistakenly diagnosed as a lipoma. I've had it for just over a month now and its already 6cm in diameter in which Wikipedia maybe not the most reliable source however it stated 3cm was standard and 10-20cm after several years. I can see mine growing that big after 2 months!? Should I get a second diagnosis. Currently all that I've had to diagnose such pathological condition is a ultrasound and after looking at various slides of types of tumors on the internet I fail to see a difference between them so is it possible the doctor might not be able to distinguish as well as I could?


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PostPosted: 11/29/12 Thursday, 10:22 am 
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Hi LeeW!

Lipomas are quite often misdiagnosed. Unfortunally too many times it seems for many docs that all benign looking tumors are can be called lipomas. This is not the case. Most often lipomas should be easy to diagnose just by feeling it but not always. From time to time a biopsy is needed.

The growth rate you mention does sound very fast for a lipoma though it's not completely impossible. Lipomas show up quite poorly in ultrasound (since they consist mainly on fat tissue).

To answer your question - yes, I would get a second opinion.

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PostPosted: 1/4/13 Friday, 8:54 pm 
Hi Matt and community,

I love to the board and reading all your stories. In thinking about how to describe lipoma pain I usually tell people to imagine having a layer of driveway gravel under your skin at all times then I stick my finger into their rib cage to give them a sensation of what it feels like when one of them flares up all of a sudden; I have found that pretty effective. They usually cringe, jump back and say "Ouch!"..."yup, now you know what it feels like." I say.

As someone who suffers with Familia Lipomatosis Dolorosa (at least thats what the dr's think), there is very little I can do that doesn't cause pain. I'm sitting at my PC at work right now, having just gone through yet another round of surgery, and my truck is filled with staples. I have 31 removed this time; somewhere around 90-95 thus far cut out. I have frankly lost count. But, I elected to go back for surgery because, even though I know more will come, surgery is something I can control and the best way I have found to eliminate these painful fat pills once and for all.

What I do find interesting is that if I 1) Don't get enough sleep 2) Drink too much 3)or have too much stress, my lipomas will flare up and become very sensitive. With proper sleep, diet and exercise, they don't disssaper but they don't hurt any where near as much.

I'd love to try the apricot seeds - any recommendations on where to get them?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: 2/21/13 Thursday, 4:33 pm 
I too have multiple familial lipoma, starting on one forearm and then opposite thigh and had a growth spurt after having my 2 children, one at age 35 and the other at 41.
When they were growing they would itch like mad, and the big one on my left thigh hurts on and off, I believe it is deeply wrapped in connective tissue and it begins to hurt with movement.
I started a ketogenic diet, about 70 % fat and very few @10 g.s of carbs because at 230# I was noticing a granular feeling to fat accumulation around my joints.
At first I noticed a reduction in the granular feeling and I believe that some if the Lipomas felt smaller in the first month, but 6 weeks later and 16 #'s down, I think the lipomas are sortof rebounding. Not itchy just not shrinking.
that being said I am hoping that keto will keep me from developing more.
We will see.
By the way at least we are a RARE bunch of lumpy people...
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