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What causes lipomas?

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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:22 am

Ah, thanks for pointing that out, sjohn! Link added to the post.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by Danny1 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:16 pm

Matt,
These data and pieces of info sound very interesting.
Maybe I missed something, but how would you account for people (for instance me) having more lipomas as soon as they start working out? If lipomas have something to do with parasites/bacteria, etc, why is the production of these critters intensified after intensive workout?
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by sjohn » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:22 pm

Danny1,

Perhaps it is caused by your body's inability to absorb lactic acid, athough excessive concentration it is not known to cause acidosis. Perhaps some problem with the metabolic path that is responsible to control inflammation caused by excercise (which in the end results to increased muscle buildup)?
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:39 am

Hi Danny1!

I hope I don't sound like I know it all - because I don't. My microbe theory is simply hypothetical.

I'm not sure if that actually happens what you said. That exersice causes lipomas to multiply and flourish?

But that being said, it's clear that after some heavy exersice our immune system is weaker for a while. Many have flu like symptoms after heavy exersice. Also like sjohn said the body produces lactic acid and some microbe species like Helicobacter pylori love hanging around in the acidic environment.

The proper environment and weakened immune system might help the lipoma microbes to flourish and spread.

So in that sense your case would still fit the picture.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by Danny1 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:28 pm

Hi Matt,
Your line of reasoning is very interesting.
It made me recall a story of a lady I read some time ago. The problem was that she wasn't very articulate. Anyway, she wrote that 20 years earlier her husband had developed (very quickly) a number of lipomas. He went to the doctor and was diagnosed with, quote "his blood catching a cold because he used to be a police officer patrolling the streets during the winter time". The most interesting thing is that he was treated with a series of penicillin injections which, according to his wife, made his lumps disappear as time passed.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by Danny1 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:50 pm

And one more thing -
I also stumbled across a plausible explanation of bumps in rabbits - papilloma virus.

Because it is a virus known in humans as HPV, this explanation might be applicable to human lipomas as well.
HPV virus is usually sexually trasmitted, which can account for the fact of adults tending to develop lipomas...
As for children, HPV can be passed from a mother to her child at the moment of birth...
Approx 70-80% of sexually active people have this virus. Maybe our bodies cannot fight it and react by not forming genital warts, but lumps under skin?
There is a sound file on the net in which Dr. Karen L. Herbst talks about Dercums and FML. She does not exclude the possibility of
transmitting lipomas from person to person, or getting "infected" (there are cases of both spouses having lipomas).
Guys, what do you think about that?
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by sjohn » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:10 pm

Danny1 wrote:There is a sound file on the net in which Dr. Karen L. Herbst talks about Dercums and FML. She does not exclude the possibility of
transmitting lipomas from person to person, or getting "infected" (there are cases of both spouses having lipomas).
Guys, what do you think about that?
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I do not disagree with matt's theory and i believe it is one of 2 or 3 most probable theories out there. This particular situation could be a specific immune system disorder which passes genetically from parent to child and it could be related with the body inability to combat certain invading species. But it is not hard for a microbiologist to process samples derived from lipomas and determine whether or not there is a certain species living inside them. So the only thing we need to do is to have someone to get some lipoma samples and actually do these experiments.

Another theory claims that lipomas are deposits of fat with toxins stored in them. This theory can be proved with a study in which several samples of lipomas from a number of people are evaluated for toxic substances.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:43 pm

Yeah, but if you have had the time to read and see what MD Alan Cantwell has to say about pleomorphic bacteria in tumors, it is not so easy for the unexperienced eye to see the bacteria inside the tumor cells.

I recommend everybody who's interested to spend some with that article and the videos from Dr. Cantwell to fully understand about the tumor-bacteria connection and that it takes a trained eye to see what is actually going on inside the tumor.

But you are right that a microbiologist would propably spot out the bacteria more clearly than a pathologist because their eyes and education is more trained to find bacteria, especially the pleomorphic ones.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by dzt » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:37 pm

Hi guys, i just wanted to ask u, if any of u do weed daily ? Or ecstasy on occasion?
Drugs can easily alter the DNA in our bodies.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:16 pm

I wonder whether you asked that because of our reasoning or something else ;)

But no, I'm not taking any drugs or medications. Well, maybe some herbs and supplements which you can legally buy from natural product stores but the lipomas appeared long before that.

What you said is true, though. Some drugs can alter the DNA.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by Charlupa » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:46 pm

dzt wrote:Hi guys, i just wanted to ask u, if any of u do weed daily ? Or ecstasy on occasion?
Drugs can easily alter the DNA in our bodies.


I smoke weed daily. I wanted to ask this but I wasnt sure if people would answer honestly. I am interested to know if anyone else does/has.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by kkelkel99 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:54 am

My lipoma appeared after about 2 months after a head injury where I lost consciousness. What has me puzzled, is that it varies in sizes throughout the day. And I mean noticeably, like one minute you see it, one minute it's gone! The biggest it ever gets is about the size a a quarter and the smallest is where I can't even feel it when I press there. Has anyone ever heard of this? I searched online and came up with nothing and even some of my Dr. friends haven't a clue :?:
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:05 am

Hi kkelkel99!

Hmm... To me that doesn't really sound like a real lipoma which is full of matured fat cells. Are you sure it is a lipoma? Have you had it checked by a doctor? There can be some natural variation in size of lipomas but I think it can't happen as drastically as you describe it.

Where is your lipoma located?
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by kkelkel99 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:11 am

It's on my forehead. Had Dr. look at it and he said it was from the head trauma I endured. But, I know what you mean about it not being a true lipoma. Even when I asked him about the changing in sizes, he looked puzzled too. So maybe it's something else......that doesn't bother me?
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:16 am

Oh dear... I wish your doc had a little more interest in solving what the bump really is! Maybe you could see another doc to get a second opinion? It sounds to me something else than a lipoma. Is it full with liquid or can you actually feel a lump under the skin that you can actually move around with your fingers?

An injury can sometimes trigger a lipomatous growth so in that sense your doc was right but I dislike the attitude of disinterest to find out what it really is. I mean the reason we go and see a doctor is that they actually FIND OUT what's wrong.

We can do the guessing and pointless assumptions by ourselves too. But don't worry, your lump - whatever it is - doesn't sound too dangerous.

If I was you I'd probably go and see another doc. Best of luck.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by kkelkel99 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:20 am

And I just found this. Interesting.

"The existence of a pathogenic link between blunt soft tissue trauma and the formation of post-traumatic lipomas is still controversial. Two potential mechanisms are discussed. Firstly, the formation of so-called post-traumatic 'pseudolipomas' may result from a prolapse of adipose tissue through fascia induced by direct impact. Alternatively, lipoma formation may be explained as a result of preadipocyte differentiation and proliferation mediated by cytokine release following soft tissue damage after blunt trauma and haematoma formation."
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by kkelkel99 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:23 am

And thank you Matt
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by matt » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:25 am

Yeah, this and other similar studies as well as minor traumas as a trigger for lipomas are discussed in a thread where we speculate whether weight training could trigger lipomas.

And you are welcome! ;) Good to have you on board!
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Tuberculosis Vaccination Induced Lipoma

Post by matt » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:49 pm

Here's a report of a 14 month old baby-girl who developed a rapidly growing lipoma to the exact spot where she received a BCG vaccination just 4 months before.

BCG vaccination, short for Bacillus Calmette-Guérin vaccine, is a vaccine against tuberculosis that is prepared from a strain of the weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus, Mycobacterium bovis.
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Re: What causes lipomas?

Post by sjohn » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks matt!
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