Cured My Lipomas, Looking for Others to Test the Treatment

[darryl]

[repost from the Facebook board to this board since it's a more appropriate location]

I've lived with lipomas for over 15 years. I had one biopsied back in my thirties (I'm now 51). Over the years I had developed over 80 subcutaneous lipomas in my forearms and trunk ranging in size from very small to two golf ball sized ones on my sides. They were all up and down my arms and because they were so apparent and people would notice all these bumps I almost never wore short-sleeved shirts. My ex-girlfriend called my "Mr. Lumpy" (and she wonders why she's now an "ex"!)

Now they're almost all gone! The remaining eight lipomas continue to shrink and I suspect will be gone completely within 6 months. I've wanted to be certain about this and want to build a case so that others can have confidence. To convince myself I stopped the treatment for a year and they slowly started growing again. When I started the treatment they again began to shrink. One more time I stopped for a shorter period and the shrinking stopped. I recently saw my doctor and I asked him to document the lipomas I had remaining. I'm down to just eight and do wear short sleeved shirts all the time now! Once they are completely gone, I'll return to my doctor to have him document the results. If I can squeeze in the time, I'm also going to see if I can find a biochemist at the local university to do a research project with me as the guinea pig.

I believe so much that I have found a real treatment that I'm going to get some supplements manufactured. It'll cost me about $5k-6k to do this, so I am serious about it. Yes, I do plan to form a business selling these supplements, but with absolute solid evidence that it's effective. If it turns out that it doesn't work for others, well then I'm just out a bunch of money. I'm not yet ready to put the ingredients out in the public domain, but I will publish the ingredients once the supplements are ready. I've spent many hours trying to figure out why this combination of supplements works, which I'll attempt to explain as well. At this point I'll just say that this appears to correct an anomaly which occurs at the cellular wall level. I certainly am not a biochemist, but I do think I've been able to discover the cause and effect connection.

Speculating why it works is not as important as demonstrating that it does work, so I'm looking for a group of 20-50 people to test the supplements over a 6 month period. I'll be giving the supplements out for free to this first group and will publish the results. I will also ask for the research participants to post in this forum and others as to the success or failure. I'm an extreme analytic, so I will have clear evidence before I attempt to sell anything.

If you are interested in participating in the test group, please e-mail me at darryl [at] rubarth [dot] net. I run a web development company in Reno, Nevada (exyst.com) as my day job, so I'm not some mysterious anonymous person. I just stumbled upon something that has worked for me. I wasn't even trying to cure my lipomas, the discovery was completely accidental.

Again, the test group will receive the supplements for free. If you live in the US, I'll even pay for shipping. If you live in any other country, the supplements will be free, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay for any actual shipping costs. I'd like to have the test group formed by December 2011. I will ask that the test group signs a confidentiality agreement. You will also be asked to count and measure your lipomas at the beginning and once a month. I'd like to find people with very prominent lipomas.

thanks,
Darryl Rubarth
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Click here to see the results of the lipoma cure test!

[Laura Roslin]

I will email you, probably would like to speak by phone before agreeing.

I don't know if I can count all of my lipomas, there are so many. There are some that the average person would see, so if those
were to disappear, it would be easy to see.

I realize that you wouldn't want to give away the combination of vitamins or suppliments, but I would need to be assured that the treatment is not toxi.

Sunday I purchased a suppliment - aimed at reducing cholesterol in a local retail store.
Well it had 250 mg of Niacin.
Within 5 minutes of taking the suppliment, I experienced what I now know is called a Niacin flush.
My entire body, especially my face - felt like it was on fire.
In fact, my skin was blazing red.

Luckily it seems to have been temporary, but I decided after that - that I'd be more careful.

But at this point, I'd pretty much eat dirt to get rid of these lipomas.
If I can participate in this "study", I will.

Will send you an email.

[darryl]

Thanks for the e-mail. I did reply.

The supplements are all extremely safe and there are not even any known contraindications. Anyone who participates in the study will of course have an ingredient list so that you can research for yourself, as you should do with all new supplements.

Darryl

[matt]

Hi Darryl, I'm also interested but as you may know by know, I live outside of the USA.

I guess there's no chance you would just tell the ingredients of your treatment to those who will participate? That way they could be sure the products are 100% safe, pure and non-toxic. You can still do your test and have the participants to sign agreements to follow your rules. And if the test is successful you can live as a rich man...

[Durable]

Hi Darryl,

i just wrote you a mail, hope i 2 can participate in this trial.

[darryl]

I guess there's no chance you would just tell the ingredients of your treatment to those who will participate? That way they could be sure the products are 100% safe, pure and non-toxic.

It's important that the testing is consistent. If I start telling people the ingredients, then they make the assumption that all ingredients are the same. This is not the case. I just heard on the radio today that 60% of the supplements supplied to the US are from China where controls are much more relaxed, so you really can't be certain that you're even getting what you expected. In addition there are different ways of producing ingredients, which is true in this case. I see this as being akin to a news story that ran here in the US recently about a doctor who stated on national TV that there's too much arsenic in the apple juice of major distributors. Fortunately he got slammed by the medical community and the FDA very quickly because he didn't differentiate between organic arsenic (safe) and inorganic arsenic (unsafe).

While I'm not attempting the controls of a clinical study, I do want at least some reasonable controls over the information which gets initially published about the efficacy of the treatment. I don't want misinformation getting out about it. Obviously once I release the ingredient list there's nothing stopping it, but by then I'll have a study group with published efficacy rates and people who can direct testimonies, good or bad.

Matt -- I'll reply to you via Facebook.

thanks,

Darryl

[darryl]

Already up to 6 participants in the study group! I'm hoping to get at least 20 for a reasonable test population. If anyone knows of other lipoma related sites I should post information on, please let me know.

Darryl

[Charlupa]

Hi Laura Roslin and Durable,
I hope you are both cautious about this treatment. I know you may be desperate, but it doesnt add up to me. I wouldnt get my hopes up yet. If I cured my lipomas, I would just tell everybody how I did it. But I guess I am just a good person. Money means very little to me , especially when compared to the happiness of others. If you know the cure, I am assuming that you know the cause of lipomas Darryl. How about telling us the cause. That way your special ingredient list is still safe from the people who actually need it.

[Charlupa]

You also ask for other lipoma related sites to post information on. What information have you posted? You have posted an advertisement. How about some before and after pictures?

[darryl]

If I cured my lipomas, I would just tell everybody how I did it. But I guess I am just a good person. Money means very little to me , especially when compared to the happiness of others.

Excellent point to bring up. I don't know if you read the whole post or not, but I'm not asking anyone to risk any money. I'm taking all the financial risk. I've offered to not only provide those who participate in the test group free product, I've also offered to pay for shipping in North America. I'm paying to have a batch of supplements manufactured as well. I'm putting out all this money simply because it worked so well for me and I believe it will work for others. I could be wrong and I could lose all the money I put into it. I've also put in hundreds of hours, and frankly the cost of my time far exceeds the other costs. I do run a business currently and barely have time for this, but I'm excited about it.

I understand marketing well enough to know that there are multiple markets to be addressed. One market is the group of people, such as most individuals on this discussion forum, who will do research and try different supplements themselves to see what happens. Then there's a far larger market of people who want to buy a product that says it will treat what ails them. Then there's probably the largest market of people who will take it because their doctor tell them to. It's the second and third markets that I plan to target. Doctors will need the most evidence. If the product doesn't get to the point of being packaged, the people in the second and third markets will never see it or buy it and therefore never experience the benefits. Or at least not until a huge corporation comes along and sees the opportunity and jumps on it.

The second problem with telling people the ingredients at this point in time is that it can influence the testing and the results that get out to the public. Please read my prior post about this point as it's extremely important.

So while your philosophy is admirable, it may not result in bringing the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people. I believe the approach I'm taking is much more likely to achieve this.

The good news is that everyone will get the full ingredient list with amounts and recommended dosages. Just not until the test is complete.

I'm a super skeptic. That's part of why I've disclosed my real name, my business name, my personal e-mail address, and for test participants my phone number. The test participants also get to see the ingredient list. I'm disclosing as much as I can without biasing the test results.

Bottom line, this discussion is going on in a public forum, so if it doesn't work, then I can guarantee you that you'll hear about it.

If you know the cure, I am assuming that you know the cause of lipomas

This is not a valid assumption. I stumbled upon a treatment that worked for me completely by accident. I was not even attempting to cure my lipomas, but they did disappear (read prior post about stopping and restarting). I've spent countless hours attempting to understand why it worked, but I'm not a biochemist and it's thick reading with lots of terms to look up. I am a reasonably bright person and do have some speculations about why it works. I've contacted the local university and am trying to find a biochemist to research this with me as the guinea pig. I'd like to do real research with a biochemist before I casually toss out my novice speculations. Ideally I can have the research completed by the time the product is ready to go to market, then you'll have the ingredients and an explanation.

I hope my rationale makes sense, even if you don't agree.

Darryl

[pierre]

Darryl, you mentioned that you have lived with lipomas for over 15 years and that now they're almost all gone.

Are there no photographs that you can show of any of the lipomas that were taken during these 15 years ?

You say that the lipomas were all up and down your arms and were so apparent. Were there no photographs taken of you showing your arms during these 15 years ?

[py88]

I don't know if you are targeting this as a herbal supplement or FDA regulated prescription drug. Prescription would require a lot more clinical trial and placebo group, and I don't think medical doctors would recommend any herbal products without official clinical trials.

Do any of your siblings or children have lipoma?

[Charlupa]

HI Darryl,
Thank you for your reply. You came across as a very reasonable person. I may be out of line with my opinion. I do not know what causes lipomas or how to cure them. I am sorry for putting down your plans. I should not judge you or your ideas especially since I do not have a better plan myself. While my opinion has not changed, Im sure people on this forum can think for themselves and dont need me to criticize others opinions. In the future, I will refrain from doing so.

[darryl]

You brought up an important question, which I was happy to share my thoughts about. Please don't hesitate to pose any question you think is relevant.

Our bodies are incredibly complex. The more I read, the more I realize how little I understand. I did explain my theory to my doctor and he thought my speculation had good rationale. I'm afraid that the "why it works" gets so technical that it really would require a biochemist who has researched human adipose tissue at the cellular level to truly be able to shoot holes in my theories. It's not that I know so much, but rather to explain to me if the pieces of research which seem connected truly are.

I'll share one other little piece of my motivation. This isn't even to the point of speculation yet, more just wondering, but what if there's a connection between lipomas and other types of tumor growth... Discoveries are made by people who ask lots and lots of questions. Please, keep asking questions. My biggest motivation? Curiosity. I just can't shut it off.


Darryl

[darryl]

Prescription would require a lot more clinical trial and placebo group, and I don't think medical doctors would recommend any herbal products without official clinical trials.

Just an herbal supplement and I agree completely that the medial community needs lots of proof, and even then it's difficult. The next two steps would be (1) work with a biochemist to research what's happening, then (2) have a clinical trial (I suspect this is quite expensive).

Do any of your siblings or children have lipoma?

I think my mom said she had one or two small ones, but no one else I know of. My kids don't, but they're just 29 and 30. I do believe there's a genetic factor, but I think there's a combination of factors that must come together which is why it's difficult to find clear patterns.

[Laura]

If you cure lipomas, you are doing something no one else has done
.

I've had lipomas since I was in my 20s, I'm 52 now and they are metastisizing!

I'm disfigured.

As a women, even at my age, appearances are a big deal.

I'm very self conscious about these lumps and I'm also fearful of where ELSE they will appear.

If this works, though, you will have people all over the world buying the product.

You should be able to make this affordable to the average person.

I support you selling the supplements or getting a patent because if this works, you are doing something NO ONE ELSE would do.

I'll be in touch again by email or phone in a few days, I have a crazy work schedule (I'm at work but doing this in break)

[darryl]

You say that the lipomas were all up and down your arms and were so apparent. Were there no photographs taken of you showing your arms during these 15 years ?

You're kidding, right? I didn't even want people seeing them, much less taking a picture. I hid my arms with long sleeve shirts and just about never took my shirt off.

What I will be asking of each of the test study participants is to diagram and measure each of their lipomas, and photograph each of the visible ones. I don't expect anyone to just trust me and I'm not even selling anything until I have the test results and see if it works for others. Even if I had photos, that wouldn't be proof. Instead I'm asking 20-50 people to join a test study where I provide free supplements and even pay for shipping (in North America), then we all see how well it works. It could be that it only works for a few, or maybe half, or possibly most, but hopefully all. Whether it works or not, I want everyone to share their results on this forum and anywhere else. I'm certainly not claiming a cure. I'm just telling you what happened to me and how I want to go about seeing if it works for others.

If anyone has a friend or relative here in Reno, Nevada, they can come to my office, walk upstairs and ask for me. I'm real. I'm taking the financial risk. If this is a scam, I could be arrested or sued. I do understand the skepticism and I'm doing everything I reasonably can to address it. Please read through my prior posts to understand my full rationale for the approach I'm taking.


Darryl

[mr_after]

how can i measure each lipomas if i have more than 50? Maybe i could measure 5-6 in different place. Just a suggestion.

[darryl]

Get a ruler with centimeters, then pinch each one and try to measure the approximate size as close as you can. With 50, you might want to actually mark them on your skin and then take a photo. Then you can draw lines to each one and show the size.

darryl

[matt]

Hi All!

This is clearly a hot topic And it should be because someone is actually alleging he has a cure for lipomas which is not invasive! We have all heard it before and it sounds way too good to be true. I am extremely sceptical as you can see from my earlier posts but still I do not want to judge anyone. If nobody ever steps up and does anything, nothing will happen.

The most important thing in this test is security. I'm not sure how Darryl is about to deliver the supplements needed but if they are somehow mixed together... well for all we know, we might be dealing with a serial killer here! It's the internet. And even if the supplements have labels on them it wouldn't be enough to calm me down. I'm sorry Darryl, if I sound way too bad, but this is the reality we have to admit. I know you have posted your real name etc...

I am very interested about trying out the treatment but I'm wondering how on earth would you be able to give me the trust I need to start eating some supplements a guy I met on the internet is sending me from another side of the globe?

I try hard to loosen my sceptisim but it's definitely not easy. I'm wondering if you really can ever have success? I mean, considering if your treatment works, aren't you afraid some bigger instance will start marketing your product without your permission? We are talking about natural products here as far as I have understood. Natural products can't be patented. So it's anyone's game.

How long are you Darryl planning to have the test? And how many shipments are expected?

Also, Darryl mentioned something like maybe all tumors share something in common. Yes, this is what I'm thinking too. I believe there are no benign and malignant tumors. Benign tumors are just sort of "under control" by the body and malignant tumors are not. I also do believe lipomas are capable of metastasizing.

We have a lot of good information gathered already on this forum. If someone claims to have found the cure, I'm very confident it will come up in this forum sooner or later even without participating to the test. We are currently testing so many different supplements alone but maybe we should be targeting more to the "multi-treatments" where we combine different supplements, like Darryl here is suggesting?

After all this, I will try to take part to the test as I feel it's my task as an administrator of this board. But do not worry, I will not eat anything unless I'm sure it's safe for me.